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Legendary Josh Casual Poster
Posts : 62 Join date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Tournement Deck Opinions Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:21 am | |
| Hey guys. Currently I am building a black/blue mill you to death deck for standard play and tournements, hoping to go regionals this year. Some of you have faced this so far, but I wanted to post a deck list (sideboard included) and get some opinions on cards that might run well in here. (I removed the Crabs, unless Blue/Green they move to slow.)
MAIN BOARD
Duress x4 (Discard/Control) - Black Ponder x4 (Draw) - Blue Divination x4 (Draw) - Blue Tome Scour x4 (Mill) - Blue Twin Cast x4 (Utility) - Blue Disfigure x4 (Control) - Black Mind Funeral x4 (Mill) - Blue/Black Archive Trap x4 (Mill) - Blue
Nemesis of Reason x2 (Mill) - Blue/Black Sign in Blood x2 (Draw) - Black Sadistic Sacrament x2 (Exile/Mill) - Black Haunting Echoes x2 (Exile/Mill) - Black Mind Spring x2 (Draw) - Blue Traumatize x2 (Mill) - Blue
Island x 10 (Blue Mana Source) Swamp x 6 (Black Mana Source) Drowned Catacomb x 4 (Blue/Black Mana Source)
SIDE BOARD
Into the Roil x4 (Control) - Blue Sage Owl x4 (Utility) - Blue
Ravenous Trap x2 (Utility) - Black Rite of Replication x2 (Utility) - Blue Telemin Performance x2 (Mill) - Blue Sign in Blood x1 (Draw) - Black
The point of the deck isn't to do a lot of control but to thin my deck fast drawing into my mill and milling you before you can deal lethal damage. I felt that counters seemed to be too slow in standard myself (Cancel being on of the best *cringe*). I have considered maybe sideboard Jace over the Rites or Performances's. Any opinion would be muchly appreciated. | |
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asdasddsa Microposter
Posts : 46 Join date : 2008-10-26
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:32 pm | |
| Id happily play against this with my Red Black aggro, BloodGhast loves to be milled. | |
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Legendary Josh Casual Poster
Posts : 62 Join date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:58 pm | |
| Bloodghast I feel is going to be an over hyped card that is too easy to deal with. Besides I see BG then I just sideboard in graveyard exile and he is dealt with. One 2/1 creature isn't really that scary. | |
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V Executive
Posts : 415 Join date : 2008-10-24 Age : 34 Location : Ulgrotha
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:39 pm | |
| That is because people don't realize how to abuse him... I may just revive my Golgari deck. | |
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Legendary Josh Casual Poster
Posts : 62 Join date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:04 am | |
| But ... I don't have to worry about a Golgori deck in Standard. In extended, then yes I think the Ghast can be a bigger threat. | |
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V Executive
Posts : 415 Join date : 2008-10-24 Age : 34 Location : Ulgrotha
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:53 am | |
| Ghats works wonders as a sac outlet in extended, but I agree BG is overhyped. It is no ichorid. | |
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Havens Extended Poster
Posts : 449 Join date : 2009-01-26 Age : 35 Location : Whitby
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:32 pm | |
| what about bloodchief ascension, as a back up plan in case you cant mill them in time.
or well, if you got it active, you would need to mill only 10 cards in order to win. assuming they have no life gain, or fail to remove it | |
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Black Flamingo Microposter
Posts : 41 Join date : 2008-12-05
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:50 pm | |
| The problem with the ascension is that the opponent has to lose life, which only his nemesis (and sign in blood sideboard) can do at the time.
Have you considered pithing needle sideboard? I'm unfamilliar with the current tournament standard, but it seems a strong reserve based on the decks I know of. May be less effective against the faster decks this may have trouble with anyhow, though. | |
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asdasddsa Microposter
Posts : 46 Join date : 2008-10-26
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:23 pm | |
| lol i hate when my quest for the grave lord becomes pithed haha or my hexmage. | |
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Legendary Josh Casual Poster
Posts : 62 Join date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:59 pm | |
| Pithing Needle is something that was suggested that I am considering. I never had looked at the card, but it is a nice answer to a couple cards that I don't really have an answer to. Baneslayer, Iouna, and a couple other powercards. | |
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V Executive
Posts : 415 Join date : 2008-10-24 Age : 34 Location : Ulgrotha
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:21 pm | |
| Pithing needle =/= Meddling Mage
It will not deal with Iona or Baneslayer, it just stops activated abilities.
Most people use it to stop Jitte and Top in Legacy. | |
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Legendary Josh Casual Poster
Posts : 62 Join date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:54 pm | |
| I was thinking about the wrong card when I typed that. Pithing needle answer to Planeswalkers. | |
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Rawr Bucket Extended Poster
Posts : 471 Join date : 2008-10-23 Location : Ajax
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:56 pm | |
| Blightnings and Duresses might give you trouble, and red burn might hit you too fast. You've no idea how much damage a turn 1 Goblin Guide can punch for. You might want to test against the Red Trio (being myself, Bob and Dave) and see how you fair. We run some of the fastest decks in the format so it would be a good check on whether your deck can punch out the mill fast enough. | |
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asdasddsa Microposter
Posts : 46 Join date : 2008-10-26
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:34 pm | |
| Ohh i wish to take on this red trio with my own black red aggro. | |
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Havens Extended Poster
Posts : 449 Join date : 2009-01-26 Age : 35 Location : Whitby
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:28 am | |
| - Undead-DR wrote:
- Ohh i wish to take on this red trio with my own black red aggro.
at the same time? o_O | |
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Rawr Bucket Extended Poster
Posts : 471 Join date : 2008-10-23 Location : Ajax
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:45 pm | |
| Well technically I'm red/black too, and now Steve L's added a red/black combo to the mix. Let the Red mayhem begin!!! | |
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Legendary Josh Casual Poster
Posts : 62 Join date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:14 pm | |
| Well I took some of the advice we talked about and added in counters and creatures and the deck went 4th place in the last Tourney so that is a little more of an improvement. I went 2-2, only lost too Vampires and f'n Ghasts. So after I try the red trio our quad out we'll see what still needs to be boarded. | |
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V Executive
Posts : 415 Join date : 2008-10-24 Age : 34 Location : Ulgrotha
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:44 pm | |
| I'm planning on finishing my Vaudeville Control (White/Black) by the end of this week hopefully, or at least proxied if you want to test against a less aggressive more control based vampire deck. | |
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Rawr Bucket Extended Poster
Posts : 471 Join date : 2008-10-23 Location : Ajax
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:14 pm | |
| I also put together Roc, although it's looking more like Green White Ramp with a Black splash right now, needs some editing but when that's running we can test that one too. Kyler or I might also build Jund since that's another big deck lately, so we can see how that fairs in the current playerbase. | |
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Rawr Bucket Extended Poster
Posts : 471 Join date : 2008-10-23 Location : Ajax
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:50 am | |
| Hrm, been a while since this thread saw some action...
So in latest news, Jund's been tearing up the scene pre-wwk. Modded it a bit since Wwk came out but haven't been to a tournament yet. Tonight's the test night at Skyfox! | |
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Havens Extended Poster
Posts : 449 Join date : 2009-01-26 Age : 35 Location : Whitby
| Subject: Re: Tournement Deck Opinions Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:25 am | |
| i have some gobs... could always use more gobs | |
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