EDH banned list

The following cards are banned as per club rules and generally accepted EDH rules:

* Ancestral Recall
* Balance
* Biorhythm
* Black Lotus
* Coalition Victory
* Fastbond
* Gifts Ungiven
* Kokusho, the Evening Star
* Karakas
* Library of Alexandria
* Limited Resources
* Lion's Eye Diamond
* Metalworker
* Mox Sapphire, Ruby, Pearl, Emerald and Jet
* Panoptic Mirror
* Protean Hulk
* Recurring Nightmare
* Sway of the Stars
* Time Vault
* Time Walk
* Tinker
* Upheaval
* Worldgorger Dragon
* Yawgmoth's Bargain
* Painter's Servant
* Staff of Domination *NEW*
* Tolarian Academy *NEW*
* Channel *NEW*

Additionally the following legends cannot be used as a General:

* Braids, Cabal Minion (Effective 2009-06-20)
* Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary (Effective 2010-06-20)


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CLUB HOUSE RULES

5+ player ban list
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Exsanguinate
Confusion in the Ranks
Grip of Chaos

Updated dan'd List: [maybe ]

Shaharazad
*Cough* Worldpurge?
*Cough* Mindtwist

Any suggestions?

UPDATE effective March 20


boo no more tinkering for menarch

* Tinker is B a n n e d
* Metalworker is B a n n e d

* Crucible of Worlds is U n b a n n e d
* Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary is U n b a n n e d

* Gifts Ungiven is on the Watch List
* Sundering Titan is on the Watch List
* Time Stretch is on the Watch List

Tinker
The subject of much debate, this should come as no real surprise. We decided that the low cost ability of Tinker to get high cost artifacts (such as Sundering Titan, Mindslaver, or Darksteel Colossus) into play early in games and significantly impact their outcome easily warranted its banning.

Metalworker
Cards that easily and cheaply produce great deals of mana are inherently dangerous to the health of the format. Metalworker is clearly one of those cards, and had to go.

Crucible of Worlds
We felt as though the primary combos with Crucible (Strip Mine and Wasteland) aren't particularly dangerous in a multiplayer format. We will keep an eye on other potential combos with Crucible, but think that for now, it will make the format healthier by being able to provide some control of explosive decks.

Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Rofellos has been the poster child for "what might be" without ever being proven to be broken. We think that while strong and possibly have the potential of such terribly anti-social Generals such as Braids, Zur, or Arcum, it also has many social applications. As with any unbanning, we'll keep our eyes peeled, but we seriously doubt that Rofellos will be a format-changing General.

Gifts Ungiven
You love it or you hate it. The reason it's been added to the Watch List is its ability to search your library for two of your best four cards for only four mana. There are many game-breaking two card combos, so we want to keep a serious eye on the ability to get to them so quickly.

Sundering Titan
Three, four, and five color decks being the majority of what gets played in EDH, Sundering Titan can easily strangle any single player, moreso when it comes out early. The fact that it can go into any deck and its asymmetrical nature multiplied this advantage. We're hoping that banning of Tinker and Metalworker will help, but we're still watching this for serious abuse (and recurring ST with Academy Ruins has not escaped us).

Time Stretch
The ability to take multiple turns is a significant advantage in multiplayer games. Time Stretch resolving once isn't so bad, but the second extra turn gives the player a great deal more opportunity for recursion, which we think is problematic. The primary thing saving Time Stretch from the dan'd list right now is that it costs 10 mana. We'll revisit next time.

Interesting...link plz?

http://edh.truespace.ca/EDH_Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1499

No problem!

Shaharazad is 100% legal. *snicker snicker*

I'm pushing for Sol Ring to be banned in EDH, I feel that it provides a huge acceleration for no cost, and it is almost as good as a Lotus in a sense.

And I still think we should ban Riftsweeper, it is easy enough to bounce back and replay, ultimately locking a general out.

And question, Sway of the Stars and Upheaval are banned but not Worldpurge, explain?

Discuss

V wrote:

And question, Sway of the Stars and Upheaval are banned but not Worldpurge, explain?

I believe this is because both Sway of the Stars and Upheaval don't drain your mana pools, while Worldpurge does. Thus making it so you cant play a bunch of bullshit afterwards.

UPDATE: Painter's Servant has been banned. Sorry James!

is memory jar banned?

Watch Update: Exsanguinate

Discuss.

(Kay maybe not an update but I still want to bring this glaring un-fun hole into the light of day here)

Well, I built a black-red deck and managed to get off an Exsanguinate (I didn't live through it's cast, but that's a separate story). In black I easily ramped up to about 20ish mana. Using my red mana as well I managed to Exsanguinate for 16 in a 7-player match (including myself here). After which I had mana to Fork it (put a copy of it on the stack, the copy is now red).

This is a net-worth of 32 damage to each opponent on approximately turn 8 or so. Had I had one or two more turns everyone would have been dealt 40+ easily.

To top this all off, if I had resolved my spells I would have gained 192 life on top of my 40 (so 232 total), while everyone else would be at 8.

This card is simply insanely broken as it can dominate games quite easily by itself given the clubs casual EDH style.



As interesting as it was to see my spell put fear into everyone's eyes at the table, it shouldn't be legal in our EDH games.

As with Grip of Chaos, I believe we should limit it to 2-4 player games. If you want to use it, make sure you have a sideboard to drop it in larger multiplayer sessions.

Confusion in the Ranks is another one which can greatly slow down game process.


PS. I see you flavell :3

Right that was the other one I was thinking of.

Acalia wrote:

Confusion in the Ranks is another one which can greatly slow down game process.


PS. I see you flavell :3

Phssst, who wants fast edh games except for tournament players..

So, news update:

Emrakul's been banned (looks like I need a new 'Commander')

Color 'identity', not casting cost, now determines a deck's colors. IE: Rhys, the Exiled's identities are green and black, since it has black in the text box. This also means cards like Bosh and Memnarch are now legal as generals.

Details here: http://www.dragonhighlander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5200&sid=801dc753cfbfe8319118aa0edab708c6

Rawr Bucket wrote:

So, news update:

Emrakul's been banned (looks like I need a new 'Commander')

Color 'identity', not casting cost, now determines a deck's colors. IE: Rhys, the Exiled's identities are green and black, since it has black in the text box. This also means cards like Bosh and Memnarch are now legal as generals.

Details here: http://www.dragonhighlander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5200&sid=801dc753cfbfe8319118aa0edab708c6

inb4 memnarch gets banned as a general

Yes!
All mah bitching and whining on the EDH forums has been shown justice!

Havens wrote:

Rawr Bucket wrote:

So, news update:

Emrakul's been banned (looks like I need a new 'Commander')

Color 'identity', not casting cost, now determines a deck's colors. IE: Rhys, the Exiled's identities are green and black, since it has black in the text box. This also means cards like Bosh and Memnarch are now legal as generals.

Details here: http://www.dragonhighlander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5200&sid=801dc753cfbfe8319118aa0edab708c6

inb4 memnarch gets banned as a general

QFT

Ban Memnarch.

Acalia wrote:

Ban Memnarch.

^this

too much infinite mana combos for him to be a general

Still no Haakon, Stromgald Scourge or Genju of the Realm.

Genju... isn't a creature...

Interesting thing about the Genju lands though. Only the Green and Black Genju Enchantments have a line of text saying "Enchant Forest" or "Enchant Swamp", the other ones don't. The cards eratta says it, the actual card doesn't for the rest of them.